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TABLE OF CONTENTS:
Why Is Boortz Desperate? - Earlier Libertarian Criticism of Boortz Why Do Libertarians Want to Boot Boortz? - Boortz Attacks On Libertarians - Israel Supporters' Attacks on Libertarians
Boortz Attack on Carol - Carol's Reply and Corrections
Carol's Relevant Writings - New Debate Boortz Petition
My New Year's Resolution was to become rich, famous and influential in 2004, and it's already coming true. On the very first day of the year, Atlanta talk show host Neal Boortz featured me on his web page, someone gave me hundreds of dollars of classic videos I easily can sell online, and I put a petition that will be seen by tens of thousands of Americans and signed by hundreds of libertarians.
This is the most publicity I've gotten since I was interviewed and appeared on ABC-TV's NIGHTLINE after the Oklahoma City bombing criticizing the government's massacre of 82 men, women and children at Waco . See the complete text of my book THE DAVIDIAN MASSACRE, published by Gun Owners Foundation, plus lots of other relevant information. (I helped the Davidians get nationally known Second Amendment attorney Steve Halbrook to take their appeal; in 2000 the Supreme Court cut 130 years off six Davidian prisoner's sentences.)
Neal Boortz position on Waco? Consider that he boasted in April 2003 on his web page: "We took Iraq in less time than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation." Give Boortz know aggressiveness, it sounds like Boortz wants to send the FEDS after after gun owners, as well as peaceniks, per the below! My g-g-g-g-grandfather, who was the head of the militia at Concord on April 19, 1775, would turn over in his grave!
But I digress... let's start at the beginning....to get to the end ...Why Boortz is so DESPERATE to attack Carol Moore.
Earlier Libertarian Criticism of Boortz
Libertarians need only read through Neal Boortz' most recent writings on his web page or his Newsmax column to find statements that attack individual liberty or twist the meaning of libertarianism. Rather than do so I'll just mention a few comments that came into my mailbox over the last couple years, i.e., the ones that I happened to save:
January 2001 - Boortz outrages libertarian women by asserting that because women don't vote as he wishes they would, "...we also see why women simply don't need to vote."
Spring 2002 - Boortz' website comments that seem to support the U.S. attacking Iraq are debated by libertarians. However, as reported in LIBERTY magazine in fall of 2002, Boortz denied to me in person at the July 2002 LP Convention that he supported invading Iraq. His later coming out to vocally support Bush's war has continued to anger many libertarians.
May 2003 - Boortz raised libertarian eyebrows when on Newsmax he not only did not criticize a law forbidding citizens the right to boycott another nation (Israel) but seemed quite content that the U.S. government had enforced the law against an American business man.
April, 2003 - On his web page (archives unavailable, click here) Boortz listed things that took longer than Operation Iraqi Freedom, without making any attempt to state that while he approved of the U.S. conquest of Iraq he deplored Reno's "taking" (and massacring) 82 members of the Davidian religious group. (Of course I'm attacked every time I criticize Israel without deploring suicide bombings in Israel!)
June 2003 - Brad Edmonds on LewRockwell.Com attacked Boortz willingness to use tax money to aggress on other nations and his supporting the federal government forcing laws on the states, rather than support individual rights within the states.
Fall 2003 - Atlanta libertarians criticize Boortz for promoting a "management fee" -- what is effect a tax on the airport passengers at the Atlanta airport -- to pay for sewer system work in the city of Atlanta.
Some libertarians believe that Boortz is just a Rush Limbaugh imitator who tries to be MORE obnoxious than Rush to boost his ratings and that being a "libertarian" is just a gimmick to help him improve his market share. But it has been his vocal and vicious support for the Iraq War and the Patriot Act which has most outraged libertarians.
Why Do Libertarians Want to Boot Boortz?
Neal Boortz spoke at at the 2000 and 2002 Libertarian Party Convention Banquets. At the 2002 Convention I specifically asked Boortz about attacking Iraq. As I wrote in my Convention Report, published in LIBERTY magazine: Boortz was more garrulous. When I asked him about a quotation on his web site that seemed to support invading Iraq, he replied: “I don't think we should invade, I think we should just nuke them!” After laughing heartily, he assured me at length that he really was for a non-interventionist foreign policy and I left 90% convinced.
However, in late November, 2003 Antiwar.com columnist Justin Raimondo attacked Boortz in an article copiously entitled: Boot Boortz! Neal Boortz is a fascist, not a libertarian. So why is he speaking at the Libertarian Party’s national convention? Raimondo cited Boortz support for the Iraq War and Occupation, as well as for the notorious Patriot Act. He quoted Boortz support for FBI spying on peace activists -- many of whom are libertarians. "The FBI is investigating the backgrounds and organizational methods of antiwar demonstrators in the US. Hopefully that doesn't come as a surprise to you. It is safe to assume that a large number of these demonstrators are out there in the streets because they want America to fail in its efforts to fight terrorism and its efforts to bring secular representative governments to Iraq and Afghanistan. Translated: Many of these demonstrators are pro-Saddam and anti-US. So, who wouldn't want them investigated by the FBI?"
Outraged libertarians sprang into action. In early December Missouri LP member Tom Knapp, after consulting with Libertarians for Peace members on our yahoogroup, put up a PetitiononLine under the auspices of "Libertarians for a Boortz-Free Convention" http://www.petitiononline.com/noboortz/petition.html As of January 1, 2004 it already had well over 600 signatures, mostly from Libertarian Party members and supporters. Justin Raimondo published a follow-up column. Non-libertarian Atlanta columnist John Sugg questioned Boortz libertarian credentials in an article entitled "Neal Boortz is No John Galt." He especially lampooned Boortz stating that Bush never lied to Americans about the reasons for the Iraq War.
Many libertarian signers of the "Boot Boortz" petition, as well as many other libertarians, also expressed support for 2004 Libertarian Party Convention Planners' featuring a debate between Boortz and an articulate, high profile and hard core Libertarian Party member like Harry Browne, Jacob Hornberger, Sheldon Richman, Mary Gingell, John Clifton, Mary J. Ruwart, etc.
Boortz Attacks On Libertarians
Boortz obviously has not gone out of his way to exempt libertarians from his exhortations to the FBI to spy on peace activists -- not that such an exemption would excuse him, of course! And once libertarians began petitioning for canceling his appearance, or perhaps more threateningly, calling for Boortz to DEBATE a hard core libertarian, he really went ballistic.
Boortz has used his radio show and web site to attack the petition and libertarians calling for cancellation of his appearance. He even encouraged his millions of listeners to sign the petition in order to support him, but only a dozen or so did so. However, Boortz ignored numerous comments from those who have challenged him to debate.
Israel Supporters Attacks on Libertarians -
Most hard core libertarians don't have a problem with Jews establishing Israel on justly acquired land -- i.e., the 7% of Palestine they had justly bought from original owners plus another maybe 10% of justly homesteaded unoccupied desert since 1948. But many have a problem with the fact Israel drove off 700,000 Palestinians in 1948 and confiscated their land and then conquered Gaza and the West Bank in 1967 and have settled hundreds of thousans of Israelis on confiscated Palestinian lands there.
And from time to time some libertarians dare to say so. Such honest and principled outspokenness provokes attacks from Israel supporters.
In August of 2003 WorldNetDaily.Com published a column by "libertarian" Ilana Mercer attacking several leading libertarians with inflammatory and largely inaccurate accusations that their view on Israel were anti-Semitic. "Libertarians who loathe Israel"
Two of the libertarians attacked immediately replied, Sheldon Richman 'Disregard for the truth' and Justin Raimondo's "Note in the Margin" section of another column on antiwar.com.
Mercer replied to them in yet another insulting screed against on WorldNetDaily.Com "Foaming at the mouth over Israel"
WorldNetDaily.Com also published a letter to the editor response to this from Sheldon Richman. At this point Jacob G. Hornberger weighed in with "Shame on WorldNetDaily" Fox News Commentator Wendy McElroy also criticized the Mercer column.
WorldNetDaily commentary editor Tom Ambrose then weighed in with yet another screed against libertarians "Big, bad Israel?"
Despite these attacks, various libertarians continue to defend libertarian views on the issue all over the Internet and will continue to do so, including in Libertarian Party campaigns. This, of course, is what infuriates these virulent Israel supporters.
As we shall see, Boortz also has joined the chorus of neoconservatives smearing as anti-Semites libertarians who dare to apply libertarian standards to Israel and its supporters. In doing so Boortz joins the sleazy company of those "dual loyalists" and "Israel Firsters" who put protecting the expansionist ambitions of the Israel's Likkud government above the safety of Americans here at home.
Per quotations to the left, George Washington warned about dupes like Boortz who attack those who truly love liberty. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people to surrender their interests.
Boortz Attack on Carol Moore
Carol Moore, in her usual outspoken fashion, managed to annoy Boortz because she kept ccing and blind ccing him on her e-mails to thousands of libertarians on dozens of lists encouraging them to either sign the petition or tell organizers they wanted Boortz to debate. She has been the most vocal proponent of the Convention Planners asking Boortz to DEBATE a hard core libertarian. She also had the temerity to produce and sell this funny button to libertarians, sending Boortz one gratis, of course. Just $1.50 at http://www.radicalbuttons.com/bootboortz.html
Boortz was aided in his attack by Steve Sass, an objectivist national sales tax advocate who has dug his spurs deep into the Libertarian Party of Maryland. (Later note: He later quit the party and joined the Republican Party.) Sass is a Jewish Defense League-wannabe who has been moderated on at least three libertarian lists (including the Maryland libertarian discussion list) for his inability to be civil, rational OR libertarian when it comes to criticism of his favorite nation, Israel. (Click here to see a tiny sample of the obnoxious comments, fulsome rants and indirect threats of violence Steve Sass directs at libertarians who do not cow tow to his view of Israel's infallibility - including exhortations that other libertarians commit suicide and not very subtle indications he'd like someone to kill them, not forgetting to mention his own ownership of guns.)
Sass forwarded my very public June 16, 2003 e-mail on Libertarians for Peace below. I confess that my reply to Senator Lugar's suggestion the U.S. send troops to "root out terrorists" in Israel was an angry over-reaction to Sass' constant badgering and defacto death threats on the Maryland, Libertarians for Peace, Libertarian and Individual Sovereignty yahoo groups. All of those attacks and threats were prompted by my (and others) much more calm and rational comments than those in my angry/frustrated rant. Attacking people for rational comments until they say or write something stupid is the strategy of low lifes like Sass.
The Boortz page content is in red, taken from the January 1, 2004 issue. My reply, including corrections to factual errors, follows. (NOTE: Given Israel supporters' continued attacks on me for this one stupid email, I posted arelevant blog comment and full commentary on 2/14/2011.)
Carol's Reply and Corrections -
First, thanks to Neal for spelling my name right and not deleting the link to my web page! Second thanks to Neal for helping me promote secession on his web page! My secession page is http://www.secession.net Third, thanks for informing Libertarians4Peace that our messages are all online for the world to see and learn from. If you want to see some disgusting Steve Sass rants on the Libs4Peace group, check out June of 2003 before we had to moderate his insulting postings and he quit the list.
As for corrections, they are as follows:
First, the local Buddhist peace group finally got a discussion of the Israel issue going and did so in a wonderfully peaceful, rational and enlightened fashion which the likes of Mr. Boortz and Mr. Sass could learn from.
Second, Howard Dean may in fact have an independent position on Israel, even if one of his campaign co-chairs is the former head of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (aka AIPAC) and his wife and kids are Jewish. Dean claimed on TV this summer that when he met with Israeli Premier Ariel Sharon this spring, Dean told Sharon he would do what he had to to force Israel come to a fair agreement with the Palestinians. (Not a libertarian position, but surely not a Likkud-puppet one like Bush's, either!)
I have come to think Dean, like a lot of us who have had numerous Jewish friends and lovers over a life time, just knows how to talk turkey with Jewish people. Let's face it, a lot of gentiles outside (and even inside) the major metropoli know hardly any Jews and are uncomfortable expressing their real thoughts and feelings with them.
Third, I think a lot of people will wonder how I define "mostly" -- in my discussion of control of media and Congress. HINT: mostly does not mean "totally" or "100%" -- it means "highly influential" or "60 or 70%." I'm always willing to argue the details rationally, as opposed to all those silencers of free speech yelling "anti-Semite" at the least raised eyebrow on Israel's latest confiscation of property or murder of an innocent bystander - or AIPAC's latest ousting of any Congressman or Radio Talk Show Host who doesn't whole heartedly support Israel -- or worse dares to criticize it.
Finally, let me re-iterate for the umpteenth time -- as a nonviolence advocate I believe Palestinians should forswear violent action, against both civilians and the ever-present Israeli soldiery and armed settlers, except in situations of dire self-defense. (See my site http://whatwouldgandhido.net ) They would be far more successful adopting massive nonviolent civil disobedience. Even Israel can't get away with shooting down dozens of unarmed civilians day after day in the streets.
But considering that I haven't even convinced Libertarian Party members in their platform to forswear revolutionary violence against government officials, police and military members, pardon me if I cannot knock myself out arguing it to Hamas!
Hmmm. I wonder if Mr. Boortz has ever read the Libertarian Party's revolutionary planks on individual sovereignty and human rights? Once he does, he'll probably e-mail these "terrorist political positions" to the FBI!
Carol's Relevant Writings
East Issues and Emotions: 1986 and 2003: An article I
wrote in 1986 when the American peace movement finally
was "breaking the silence" on the issues of United States aid to Israel
and Israeli oppression of Palestinians. In the 16 years since
article was published, American peace and antiwar movements have
progressed to the point members can speak openly about, and organize
these issues without automatic charges of "anti-Semitism." My new
article addresses both the updated political issues and the continuing
emotional issues around Middle East organizing -- especially in the
Voices for Israel-Palestine
Confederation on Secession.Net: Palestinians
have been trying to "secede" from Israel's UN-mandated occupation for
than 50 years, as well as to regain their confiscated property. Yet Israelis also
have a right to live in the "Promised Land" on their justly acquired
(or if necessary, justly compensated) lands, which today might be 15-20
percent, including land that truly was previously unowned. The voices below
describe various confederal options.
Perhaps only a transcendent political solution
like confederation, arrived at through nonviolent negotiation, can
Debate Boortz Petition
To: Libertarian Party 2004 National Convention Planners and Neal Boortz
Given that over 600 individuals,
mostly Libertarian Party members and
supporters, have as of January 1, 2004 signed a PetitionOnLine
that Atlanta, Georgia talk show host Neal Boortz’ appearance at the
Party 2004 Convention in Atlanta be CANCELED because of Boortz’
misrepresentation of libertarian views... See
Carol Moore January 1, 2004 (updated January 4, 2004)