RETURN TO SASS SECTION OF BOORTZ REPLY PAGE

BELOW IS JUST A SAMPLE OF EXCERPTS SHOWING THE OBNOXIOUS
AND EVEN TERRORISTIC (OR TERRORIST OR TERRORISM )
COMMENTS STEVE SASS OF MARYLAND DIRECTS AT LIBERTARIANS
WHO DO NOT COW TOW TO HIS VIEW OF ISRAEL'S INFALLIBILITY

(SEE PARTICULARLY OBNOXIOUS COMMENTS IN BOLD - WORST ONES AND MY NOTES IN RED)
(As well as varous criticisms of Sass's flames, including moderators' moderation of him.)
Please note that in 2006-7 Mr. Sass went back to the Republican Party, thank heavens!

2001
Subject: Re: [MDLP-Announce] Carol Moore's Silly Idea and Inconsistency
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 14:10:44 EDT
From: TsMom17@aol.com
To: crestln@erols.com, MDLP-Announce@yahoogroups.com

In a message dated 8/11/01 1:16:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [STEVE SASS] crestln@erols.com writes:

> DON'T LIBERTARIAN'S OPPOSE THE USE OF FORCE ?  MIGHT YOU SAY A FEW WORDS
ON > THAT SUBJECT?  PERHAPS YOU MISSED SOME OF THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS,
INCLUDING > THE ONE BY RON PAUL
> [HAVE YOU HEARD OF HIM OR IS YOUR HEAD SO DEEP IN THE TOILET THAT YOU
> NEITHER SEE LIGHT OR HEAR THE TRUTH:
>
    Geez, can't you make your point without talk like this?

Subject: Re: [MDLP-Announce] Carol Moore's Silly Idea and Inconsistency
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 15:56:03 -0400
From: "steven m. sass" <crestln@erols.com>
Organization: Crestline
To: MDLP-Announce <MDLP-Announce@yahoogroups.com>

>..........Israel our friend?...Read about the U.S.S. Liberty....How soon we
>forget. Besides it's naive to think any country has a true friend!   All countries
>use each other for their needs and wants of the day!
>
>Ginny McDonnell
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR ____, GINNY.

<snip>

[Note: As you will see, given Mr. Sass' repulsive anti-women comments below, we can assume that "   ," space before "Ginny"
was left blank so she'd stick in the words "legs" in stead of "mouth." CM]


Subject: CAROL,YOU USE WORDS LIKE A WHORE USES A LAMP POST -- NOT FOR ILLUMINATION  BUT FOR A PLACE TO MARK YOUR SPOT
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:54:07 -0400
From: "steven m. sass" <crestln@erols.com>
Organization: Crestline
To: MDLP-Announce <MDLP-Announce@yahoogroups.com>

SPEAK OUT AGAINST IT OR FOR IT!!!!

WHY DO YOU SAY NOTHING ABOUT INVITATIONS TO ARAFAT AND THE MURDERERS HE WILL NOT CONDEMN OR TURN OVER FOR TRIAL?  HOW ABOUT THE TROOPS WE HAVE FORCED TO WEAR UN UNIFORMS IN SERBIA.

I NEED NOT CHARGE RACISM YOUR WORDS MAKE CLEAR YOUR BIAS.  THIS IS WHAT GETS
THE U.S. AND OTHER COUNTRIES INTO TROUBLE.  I SAY AGAIN, BE CONSISTENT OR BE  QUIET

THE BEAR HALL IS CLOSED!

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Carol Moore wrote:

> Sorry, charging racism or anti-semitism for criticizing Israel doesn't
> intimidate most
> libertarians. We're made of firmer stuff.  And we know and will speak out
> against hypocrisy where
> ever we see it.
>
> "steven m. sass" wrote:
>
> > WHY TAKE ACTION ON ONE COUNTRY, UNLESS YOU HAVE YOUR OWN RACIST MOTIVES!
>
> >
> > YOUR NON LIBERTARIAN PANTIES ARE SHOWING, AND I FIND IT VERY
> UNPLEASANT.  PLEASE GO DOWN WIND!

> >
> > STEVEN SASS

--
Steven M. Sass, President
Crestline Industries
11436 B Cronridge Drive
Owings Mills Md. 21117
410-764-2444
web   http://crestline.netrax.net

2003
(Sass's rants start here. On the public "Libertarians4peace" page which at the time was moderated by someone else.)
To: rick@onelilgirl.com
Cc: libs4peace@yahoogroups.com
From: Steven Sass <crestln@erols.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 15:28:32 -0400
Subject: Re: [libs4peace] Re: [MD-lib] Report on Gary Nolan Talk & LP Non-InterventionPolitics

Clearly YOU and people of your persuasion can not think and are not interested in consistency  or logic.

The U.S  and Israel  have NET  Immigrants -- most, if not all of the terror supporting Moslem dominated states have MASS emigration.  Those countries are the precise opposite of Libertarian in that they wish to  control EVERYONE in every way possible, from dress to methods of relaxation.  For those who want to live that way,  let them,  BUT  as a LIBERTARIAN  I  object to anyone who wishes to make me give up alcohol or any personal liberty.  I also have sense enough to see a risk that faces us all:  to paraphrase Paine:: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will , in this crisis, shrink from the service of  THEIR IDEALS

Neither the U.S. nor Israel  [nor any other GOVERNMENT]  gives its people as much freedom as I think the individuals have a right to, BUT  any Libertarian who supports these FORCE INITIATING organizations in any way,  is false to his own stated goals

. steve
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Rick LaPoint wrote:

> Apparently Mr. Sass can't read:
>
> (from www.lp.org)
>
> Welcome to the Official Web Site of the Libertarian Party
> The Libertarian Party is committed to America's (note: it doesn't say
> the "world's") heritage of freedom:
>  
> individual liberty and personal responsibility (note: personal, not
> community responsibility as you so sheepishly stated I should seek
> earlier)
To: Mike Donovan <mike.donovan@rcn.com>
Cc: libs4peace@yahoogroups.com
From: Steven Sass <crestln@erols.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 13:26:18 -0400
Subject: Re: [libs4peace] Creepy

Gee, creepy, there's a word I have not used since I left elementary school -- is that where you are?  Certainly adds to rational discourse --

Mike,  if you like to throw around loaded phrases like neo-con,  I suspect you will wind up in the same place as carol- and  it is clear   where your thinking leads you,  not me.  For your guidance,  I am a strong Objectivist,  and find the Ayn Rand group way   preferable and more rational than the two of you.

for your closing, Faithful in what?

steve
xxxxxxxx
Mike Donovan wrote:

> Steven Sass wrote to Carol Moore:
>
> "I have no doubt where you will end up, I  just hope it is soon."
>
> What is this creepy Neocon Sass alluding to this time?  Camp Xray?  Hell?
> Murdered?
>
> Sass, you Neocons are a perverted bunch.

>
> Yours Faithfully,
>
> Mike Donovan

To: libs4peace@yahoogroups.com
From: Todd Andrew Barnett <libertarianman@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:13:14 -0400
Subject: [libs4peace] My Return to the Libs4Peace List,
    My decision regarding Mr. Steven Sass, etc.

Dear Fellow Libertarians for Peace Members:
<snip>
Third, I've been reading some of the posts made by Mr. Steven Sass and his attitudes with regard to the list. I don't like to take action against people on this list, as it is not my favorite thing to do and I normally don't do that anyway. But considering the responses Mr. Sass has made to this list, especially when he has been a member here since 06/09/03.

Considering the fact that Mr. Sass is basing his views on collectivist government propaganda and machinations, it is quite clear that he is IN FAVOR of our nation's pro-interventionist foreign policy.
He has been constantly spewing out globs and globs of collectivist garbage and social engineering on this list, and igniting flames and personal attacks, without having any regard for differences of opinion and without conducting himself in a civilized and dignified manner, even if he disagrees with the LP's position on foreign policy, non-intervention, foreign aid, etc.

Let's all keep in mind that the individual posters who are providing their thoughts and submitting their articles on the list are posting viewpoints which are not a reflection of the non-intervention and anti-war positions that are a centerpiece of Libertarians for Peace. Furthermore, the thoughts, ideas, and views of the individual posters are in no way endorsed and/or supported by the national Libertarians for Peace organization and all or any of its affiliates.

In other words, the ideas given by the posters are merely their own and do not exclusively represent the positions of the national organization itself.

Because of Mr. Sass' behavior and his abusive and childish behavior, I have come to a decision. It is not one that I make lightly, and it is one that I have to make. Ergo my decision is this:

In light of the statements made by Mr. Sass and his outrageous and idiotic behavior, it is apparent to me that he has abused his membership in the organization and he has initiated force to a calculating attempt to achieve his own goals. Ergo, because of these actions and his behavior, I have decided that he is to be banned from this list on a permanent basis. I could have moderated him for his unethical, morally-bankrupt, and outrageous behavior, but what would be the point? It would probably drive him away from the list. And I would rather have that happen quickly than allow him to be a member of the group.

He has worn out his welcome; ergo he is no longer welcome in Libs4Peace. It's that simple.

<snip>
{Note: Since Mr. Barnett no longer was owner of the list, I as the new owner only MODERATED Sass, per the requests of a number of members. He then quit the list.  After increasingly insulting emails on other lists, I then banned him.  C. Moore]
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 15:34:09 -0400
From: Steven Sass <crestln@erols.com>
To: Carol Moore <info@carolmoore.net>
Subject: Ding Dong the witch is gone!

Other than a bloodied suicide note,  I can't think of anything I would rather read from you carol!

Steve,  Baltimore
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Carol Moore wrote:

> snip 


To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com
From: "Terry L Parker" <txliberty@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:43:53 -0000
Subject: [Libertarian] MODERATORintervention re: Reply to 2nd Mercer Screed Against Libertarians

Steven Sass, you're on 'moderated' status AGAIN!

Go back and read the warnings from the last time that you were moderated to gain better insights about why it's happening to you again.  You are not 'banned'  Your messages to this forum will languish in a que awaiting my review BEFORE publication in this forum at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian

Please consult this forum's guidlines in the 'files' area for more info.

Moderator,
-Terry Liberty Parker
http://profiles.yahoo.com/txliberty


--- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, Steven Sass <crestln@e...> wrote:
> to have a rational discussion one must deal with a rational being --
you
> are neither
>
> you really seam to be into this 'sucking thing carol'  -- please
keep
> your private income source to yourself, paltry though it must be
!
>
> what rumors are you starting about FairTax -- that is no rumor, I
am
> regional director of the most positive practical way to abolish the
> IRS,   or is the income tax one of your  pets?
>
>
> Steve Sass,  Baltimore
>
> P.S.    I will put my record  for liberty and freedom against yours
> anytime -- your lack of knowledge and personal bias is so appalling
to
> me, that you might like to know  EVERY TIME you issue a stupid
> statement,  I send a PERSONAL contribution to Israel!  Speak up
again,
> you ignorant mass of  protoplasm!
<snip>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JewishLibertarians/message/3607
From:   Steven Sass <crestln@e...>
Date:  Thu Aug 14, 2003  6:18 am
Subject:  Re: [JewishLibertarians] Libertarians who loathe Israel

carol moore is the ex participant, BUT if you ever have the misfortune to read messages on Lib4peace, SOME of them sound like martin borman, eichman or others --- AMAZINGLY scary, and enough to raise real concerns in my mind about the hidden agenda of a lot of people -- I also obtained an additional fire arm specifically because of what I read there, AND I have been told by some friends in the WDC area, that the statements sometimes uttered in private in that area are just as bad

Steve Sass, Baltimore

To: MD-lib@yahoogroups.com, md-lib-news@yahoogroups.com
From: Steven Sass <crestln@erols.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:42:44 -0500
Subject: Re: [MD-lib] Re:  Libertarian strategy to be developed]
<snip>
I wouldn't give YOU anything but the web site for the Hemlock Society

<snip>
To: "Steve --Baltimore" <crestln@erols.com>
Cc: "MDdiscuss" <MD-lib@yahoogroups.com>,
        "MDLib-NEWS" <md-lib-news@yahoogroups.com>,
        "Individual Sovereignty" <individual-sovereignty@yahoogroups.com>
From: "Ed Akehurst" <taxtruth@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:25:42 -0500
Subject: [MD-lib-News] Is the flaming really necessary? Grow up.

Steve,

Please read carefully the below quotes.
Each of them came from you and were
publicly directed at Carol Moore. The fact that you disagree with her
ideology does not make it right or correct for you to make such childish
attacks against her. This does not bode well for the newcomer who checks out
these lists to see what Libertarianism is all about. These issues CAN be
discussed intelligently and rationally (even if vehemently) without the
personal attacks tossed in. This is VERY kindergarten-school-yard garbage.

You are the MEMBERSHIP COORDINATOR? I am ashamed to belong to a group who
chose to fill one of it's leadership and outreach positions with someone who
behaves so immaturely in public.


I have thought long and hard about leaving the Party for many months now.
You have shored up my decision to stop assisting the party. Over the years,
I have dedicated many hours to obtaining petition signatures, manning booths
at fairs, doing highway cleanup, putting together databases, organizing
county LP organizations, etc.

I am not leaving the Party because of your behavior, but you have made me
realize that my decision to leave is the correct choice and I will certainly
never come back to the fold until you are no longer in any official
leadership position.

Grow up.

Ed Akehurst

Quotes (made in a public forum) towards another human being from Steve Sass,
the LP Membership Coordinator - PAY ATTENTION PEOPLE - THIS IS WHAT THE
WORLD SEES AS THE LP:


“you have shown do not have the necessary tools to read a  book much less a
mind”

“YOU toss out bigoted stupid statements that drive people away”

“my insults are directed at YOU -- the dumbest shrew I have ever had the
misfortune to encounter!”

“you get dumber with every post”

“Perhaps you need to have some fanatic shove a bomb up your......,
  but
if you used your head for anything beyond a rest place for pigeons”

“If only someone would toss  water on you so you would melt away”


To: MD-lib@yahoogroups.com
From: ronkean@juno.com
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 00:41:55 -0500
Subject: [MD-lib] Re: Is the flaming really necessary?

On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:52:57 -0500 Carol Moore in DC
<news@carolmoore.net> writes:
> Thanks, Ed, for commenting on the plethora of ad hominems.  I have
> tried
> to refrain from such, except to point out, for example, when Sass's

> > views were more like a NEOCONs than a libertarians.  Perhaps it is
> time > for moderator action?
>

I appreciate, Carol, that you have refrained from responding in kind to the recent rash of personal comments.

At this point, it is my duty as moderator to place the following address on moderation: crestln@erols.com . [STEVE SASS] This action applies only to the MD-lib discussion list.

I believe that it is possible to disagree, even profoundly so, and yet still be polite, and that the consensus of members of this list supports the rule that discussion here should remain in a civil tone.

Ron Kean
moderator, MD-lib@yahoogroups.com

To: MD-lib@yahoogroups.com
From: cboxall@bigfoot.com
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:57:10 -0000
Subject: [MD-lib] [MD-lib-News] Re: 2002 LP PLatform on Foreign Policy

  A variety of thoughts on this -

First and foremost -
"carol --you get dumber with every post --"

and

" Perhaps you need to have some fanatic shove a bomb up your......, but if you used your head for anything beyond a rest place for pigeons <snip> "

  These comments are inappropriate, regardless of anything Carol might have said.  If her comments were truly of no value, it wouldn't make sence to respond to them.  That out of the way . . . .
<snip>


From:  Steve [SASS]--Baltimore <crestln@e...>
Date:  Mon Feb 16, 2004  7:11 pm
Subject:  Re: [WesternLibertarian] Libertyforall.Net: Anti-Semitic to Apply Libertarian Principles? See NEW article
 
There are not many items on the internet that are as ubiquitous and as
stupid as carol moore -- seeing a message coming from her makes me
recognize that porn, viagra ads, mortgage specials, and various
enlargement offers are not the bottom of the barrel, BUT with her it
is like passing animal dropping in the park -- even if you don't step in
it, the smell can be over powering --

Steve, Baltimore

p.s. My apologies to animals and their natural body functions, it is
unfair to compare them to the drivel carol spews
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Carol Moore in DC wrote:

> Feb 16,2004
> http://www.libertyforall.net/soapbox.html
>
> Is Applying Libertarian Principles to Israel Anti-Semitic?
> Or -- Challenging Libertarians to Save America from Middle East Wars
> by Carol Moore
>
 Note: this new article is at http://www.carolmoore.net/libertarianparty/principlesandisrael.html


From:  Steve --Baltimore <crestln@e...>
Date:  Sat Mar 13, 2004  2:44 pm
Subject:  Any Guidance or Knowledge Here?
[On JewishLibertarians yahoogroup]

I don't know if it is because I took out membership in ZOA [after reading too many anti Israel comments from carol and others], but I have lately been flooded with requests for money from various Jewish groups such as today's mail which brought appeals from: the Israel Resource Center [elderly Jews at Risk] Magen David Adom [medical support]  Israel Youth Village .

Does anyone have knowledge of these or other groups? I would like to offer help, but don't know which groups are best -- If I had full choice I would like to help some OFFENSIVE groups that would put the terror right back on the Islamofascists and general bigots that generate the problem !

Steve -- Baltimore

From:  Steve --Baltimore <crestln@e...>
Date:  9/9/2004 9:16 am
Subject: Re: Survivalist Communities and FSP
[On mid-atlantic_FSP yahoogroup]

MY COMMENT IS,  if  carol moore has anything to do with this group -- count me OUT!   I would personally be happy to stuff a nuke or any other device down her throat,  and would  weep more  for the lost uranium atoms than for her or those  who listen to her!

Steve,  Baltimore

P.S.   I would only be  stuffing if I could do it remotely,  since  she[?]  is more contaminated  and vile smelling than any disposal system
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Secession.net/ Carol Moore contact wrote:
Per the below, their is a growing possibility that Neocon/Bush/Israel's threats of attacks on Iran -- and Iran's counter threats like below -- will lead to a war that will soon go locally nuclear and then spiral out of control into Pakistan/India/US/Russia/China/Israel exchanging nuclear attacks with perceived enemies. (See http://carolmoore.net/nuclearwar for various scenarios/info)

MY QUESTION:  Is Anyone in FSP (and esp. Mid-Atlantic region) interested in organizing any kind of survivalist efforts?  Safe houses (or basements) at least 50 miles from likely targets, preferable in mountains; supplies of food/water; agricultural supplies; etc.  Should we start a libertarian-survivalist yahoogroup?
++++++++++
http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=3131
Iran warns of preemptive strike on U.S. forces
8/19/2004 12:30:00 PM GMT

Rear-Admiral Shamkhani said Tehran would respond to a U.S. attack on its nuclear facilities.
Source: AFP

For the first time, Tehran has threatened a preemptive strike against U.S. troops in the region.
snip


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Individual-Sovereignty/message/72771

From: "Steve S." <crestln@erols.com>
Date: Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:58 pm
Subject: Re: [I-S] Where Carol Moore is going to be

Unfortunately my dynamite and razor blade belt is at the clearners or I
would surely be there to show carol and the others exactly what
palestinians are like -- real up close and personal for her, although I
am sure the gore would permanently taint the sewer system and numerous
rats and other vermin would die from their canabalistic feasting on
their kinsmen


steve
----------------------

bobhunt@starpower.net wrote:

> Where Carol Moore is going to be
>
> http://stopthewarnow.net/protests/aipacprotest-03-06.html
>
> WHEN: Monday, March 6th, 6:00-8:00 PM during American Israel Public
> Affairs Committee (AIPAC) Gala Banquet attended by dozens of
> congressional representatives and other luminaries. (Rumor has it "hot
> shot" Dick Cheney will speak.)
> WHERE: DC Convention Center, south side of Mount Vernon Place between
> 7th and 9th Streets NW.
> WHAT: Bring relevant signs, flags, banners. Be ready to speak out with
> other activists for Middle East peace and human and Palestinian rights.
> Megaphone will be provided. (See photo above.) Some People Are Talking
> About Non-Violent Civil Disobedience So Email Us If Interested.
> WHY: To make it clear we do not want the US or Israel to attack Iran and
> want both to work for a nuclear free Middle East that removes Israeli --
> and American -- nuclear weapons from the area. Israel should cease
> threatening its neighbors with nuclear weapons and instead seek peace by
> ensuring that Palestinians have equal rights and the right to return to
> their original homes, lands, cities, towns and villages.
> SUNDAY VIGILS: Some individuals will vigil Sunday morning and evening
> March 5th. 11:00 am to 1:00 pm during speech by UN Ambassador John
> Bolton on Iran; 6:00 - 8:00 pm during the dinner meeting, just in case
> Dick Cheney shows up Sunday instead of Monday.
>


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Individual-Sovereignty/message/72799
From: "Steve S." <crestln@erols.com>
Date: Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:31 am
Subject: Re: [I-S] Where Carol Moore is going to be scubaracket


let me clarify, my explosive belt would be placed around a cream puff
or some icon that would surely tempt her - perhaps a pile of shit
NO FREEDOM LOVING PEOPLE, of humans would be hurt in the making of the
devistation

steve

Jeffrey Quick wrote:

> >Unfortunately my dynamite and razor blade belt is at the clearners or I
> >would surely be there to show carol and the others exactly what
> >palestinians are like -- real up close and personal for her, although I
> >am sure the gore would permanently taint the sewer system and numerous
> >rats and other vermin would die from their canabalistic feasting on
> >their kinsmen
> >
> >steve
> >----------------------
>
> Steve, Steve, man....Carol is not worth dying for. You're gonna go
> Palestinian on us, at least hold out for Noam Chomsky.
>


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MD-lib/message/11896

From: steven sass <crestln@...>
Date: Mon Mar 6, 2006 11:52 am
Subject: The REAL RISK TO FREEDOM -- ISLAMIC TERRORISTS scubaracket

Ca-ching -- thank you for reviving your bigoted anti-Semitism again
carol -- as always, any message from you generates a VOLUNTARY
contribution from me to a Zionist cause!.

For those who wish to learn about the REAL risk to the world and
LIBERTARIANISM in particular, join me April 29th at the WDC conference

The Underlying Roots of Terrorism: Terrorism's Threat to World Peace
and National Security

steve sass
p.s. When will you be demonstrating at the Egyptian Embassy about the
money they get. Have you written your representatives about their
misguided payments to the thugs of palestine?

p.p.s During your demonstration carol, be careful in the street --
there will be some cars and trucks going by and I would not want to see
any of them dented or dirties when they encounter your mass


From: "steven s." <crestln@erols.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:05:23 -0500
Subject: [bclp-discuss] Re: [MD-lib] the election

....
While I still am registered as a Libertarian,  I am also involved with
the Republican Liberty Caucus  [http://www.rlc.org/],  and we have a 
Yahoo group within Md. that you are welcome to sign on for at  
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RLCMD/   In general,  the group is
fiscally conservative,  strict Constitutionalists but also pro
Security.   The founders have accepted what Ron Paul and some others
recognize,  changing from the inside is much more practical.    Check
it out...

From: "steven s." <crestln@erols.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2006 15:48
Subject: [bclp-discuss] Re: [MD-lib] Israel and Property rights...Re:Kevin Zeese and property rights
thank you carol for raising your bigoted mouth again -- ever time I see your name, a nice check goes off to the American Zionists -  of course I can understand your support of islamics,  even terrorists, since you are one of the few creatures on earth who will look better in a berka.,  and better still in a berka in  Iran,  just before a bomb goes off
steve


Carol Moore in DC wrote:

Since Zeese and property rights and the "middle east" were mentioned in
same post I would like to remind people of what a number of libertarians
have said about Israel's violation of Arab property rights in Palestine,
starting
in 1948 and up to this day (i.e., constant violations of human rights and
illegal, immoral confiscation of private property).
1) LIBERTARIAN LINKS

*Libertarian Murray Rothbard's late 1960s War Guilt in the Middle East
on why libertarians must take a stand.
http://www.mises.org/journals/lar/pdfs/3_3/3_3_4.pdf

*Murray Rothbard "Pat Buchanan and the Menace of Anti-Anti-Semitism"
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch6.html

*"The Real Reason to Oppose Aid to Israel" by Libertarian I. Dean Ahmad,
Ph.D. http://www.minaret.org/israeliaid.htm (on Minaret of Freedom)

*Richard Ebeling article "Property Rights and the 'Right of Return'"
http://www.fff.org/comment/com0305o.asp

*Sheldon Richman "'Ancient History: U.S. Conduct in the Middle East
Since World War Il and the Folly Of Intervention"
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-159.html

*Stephen P. Halbrook's Journal of Libertarian Studies article "The
Alienation of a Homeland: How Palestine Became Israel"
http://www.blancmange.net/tmh/articles/halbrook.html

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