TANKS RENDERED BUILDING A WELL-VENTILATED TINDER BOX
Mount Carmel Center was constructed of old wood from the Davidian homes which had been torn down; walls and roofs were made of plasterboard and tar paper. After BATF shot out the windows, black curtains and bales of hay were placed against them to protect against the cold. There were also large quantities of flammable paper, furniture, clothing and bedding throughout the building. Dozens of gallons of paint, paint thinner and other flammables were stored in the gymnasium.2/
FBI Forced Davidians to Use Flammable Fuel
After the FBI cut off the building's electricity, the Davidians became
totally dependent on flammable fuel for light and heating. Attorney
Jack Zimmermann noted that "almost every room had a coleman lantern."
Survivor Clive Doyle reveals that for an entire month the 85 inhabitants
were reliant on flammable fuel which was spilled and splattered by individuals
filling lanterns or carrying them through the building.3/ At trial
Jack Zimmermann testified that he saw a number of gallon coleman fuel containers
stored in the kitchen area and in the nearby hallway.4/
One defense attorney noted that on April 19th, "As they awoke, kerosene
lamps hanging on the outside walls were lit." Because of the black
curtains hung on the windows to protect them from any sniper attacks, lamps
needed to be lit even during the daytime. Some rooms contained butane
gas heaters and propane gas tanks.5/
Gas Grenades and Tanks Dispersed Fuel
Surviving Davidians claim that rocketing gas grenades knocked over un-lit
coleman lamps and tanks knocked over other fuel containers. Graeme
Craddock and Clive Doyle claim that there were a dozen gallon lantern fuel
containers near the front door which they had to move when the tank came
in the front door. Some of that fuel spilled on the floor.6/
David Thibodeau told interviewers that after tanks smashed up the gymnasium,
"I know kerosene was all over that room."7/ Even the pro-government
Fire Report, written without benefit of survivor interviews, admits that
due to "structural damage. . .it is possible that some flammables were
spilled inside the building as a result."8/
Flammable Gas and Solvents Saturated the Building
As we have seen, the CS gas and methylene chloride, the solvent with which
the FBI claims it was mixed, both are flammable and will sustain and accelerate
a fire. Dozens of gallons of these materials were sprayed into the
building through the Mark-V liquid tear gas dispenser system--liquid CS
gas sprayed out the front of the boom--and through the liquid CS gas in
the gas grenades. The floors, walls, ceilings and furnishings would
have been saturated. During his April 19th afternoon press conference,
SAC Bob Ricks mentioned that the FBI "put massive gas" into the building
at noon, minutes before the fire.
Tank Damage Increased the "Flue" Effect
Most fires begin small, heat up an ever-increasing area as they consume
more fuel, and then, when a certain critical mass of heat is reached within
the room, "flashover" or explode into full room engulfment.9/ Fire
also can spread rapidly through the "flue" effect--wind rushes the flame
through a long, enclosed space like air rushing smoke through a chimney
flue. Mount Carmel was filled with natural flues--its long, unobstructed
first and second floor hallways in the south front of the building, the
"cat walk" over the chapel that joined the second floor hallway, David
Koresh's old quarters, and the the long "dog run" on top the gymnasium
that also joined those quarters. The tanks' destruction of the whole
back of the gymnasium increased the flow of air.
The 30 mile-an-hour winds blowing through the tank-created holes would
spread any fire quickly--especially if that fire was acting upon floors
soaked by weeks of dribbled lantern fuel and upon flammable CS gas and
methylene chloride-sodden walls, floors and furnishings. At trial
fire investigator Quintiere conceded that within five minutes of the first
fire, the entire building was engulfed.10/
EVIDENCE TANK ATTACKS STARTED FIRES
The Justice Department report states that fires started first in the second floor east front, next in the dining room, and finally in the east side of the chapel and claims that such an illogically disconnected pattern only could be the result of arson by the Davidians.11/ However, the government refuses to admit how quickly one fire could spread to separated areas. Nor will it concede that tank attacks also could cause such a disconnected pattern of fires. The Justice report does not include a very clear description of the last tank assaults before the fire and never mentions the collapse of half the gymnasium.12/ Nevertheless, news footage, and infrared video tape and photographs released to attorneys and revealed during the trial, provide strong evidence that the fires that devoured Mount Carmel were started by one or more FBI tanks and not by Davidians. For Richard Sherrow's 1995 civil suit affidavit affidavit regarding the start of the fire, click here.
Tank-Caused Second Floor Fire Flashed Through
Building
News video shows a tank ripping away at first floor corner of the building,
rattling and perhaps ramming the room above it at 12:06 p.m. Smoke
pours from that area within 90 seconds. At 12:07:41 p.m. infrared
video first detected fire. At trial, fire investigator James Quintiere
conceded that this tank pulled away from the east front corner of the building
shortly before smoke started coming from a second story window above the
location.13/
Two infrared photographs in the Justice Department report, taken at 12:07:52
and 12:07:56 p.m., circle a bright light indicating fire in the east window
of the room directly above the area ripped out by that tank. The
official Fire Report describes this first fire as being at "(southeast
corner, second floor)."14/
Yet, on the May 5, 1995 episode of ABC-TV's "Nightline," Paul Gray, the
government's chief fire investigator and author of that report, denied
that the fire started in that corner. Showing a portion of the government's
infrared video tape, pre-edited for "Nightline," Gray points to the front
window about ten feet west of the corner and asserts: "As we can see, there's
fire here, in the front of the compound." Commentator Ted Koppel
asks, "Was that the area that was punched in by the tank?" Gray answers,
"The corner. Downstairs, right of where you see fire there.
There was no penetration by the tank into the second floor."
However, the window is in the same room rammed from below by the tank--the
same room whose east window is shown in the 12:07:52 and 12:07:56 photographs.
And as the camera pans around towards that window from the second window
it is clear that the whole room is fully aflame. This was but one
more inept attempt by a government representative to deny what the public
can plainly see--that the fire started in the same room rammed and/or rattled
from below by the tank.
Attorney Dick Kettler reported that Renos Avraam "was with a number of
people squeezed into a hallway on the second floor when the fire started.
He heard a tank crashing against the wall in a room near them. Then
that room caught fire. He said it was terrifying. The tanks
were crashing into the walls, and the whole building was shaking.
He thought he would get crushed between the walls. Others in the
hallway didn't have time to escape. The fire went too fast."
The attorney noted that Avraam did not see the lantern turn over, but knew
there was one in the room that caught fire.15/ April 20, 1993 CNN
news footage shows Avraam, as he is being led into a police van, call out,
"I heard someone say that a fire started when a tank backed into a room."
Survivor Jaime Castillo also is convinced the first fire started in this
second floor area before whipping through the rest of the building.16/
This fire, located at a pivotal point in the building and driven by 30
mile-an-hour winds, could quickly have spread not only down the second
floor hallway to the tower, but down the collapsed stairwell into the dining
room, where many gallon containers of fuel oil were stored. Fire
survivor David Thibodeau reveals that he was in the cat walk over the chapel
right after the fire began and actually saw the fireball from the corner
room fire flash down the hallway toward the four story tower. He
then jumped down from the cat walk.17/ Sparks from the fire only
had to fall through the opening to the cat walk and down into the fuel-filled
chapel to spread the fire there.18/
Independent fire investigator Rick Sherrow confirms that a fire in the
second floor could have spread down the hall, down the collapsed stairwell,
and into the dining room area in as little as three seconds.19/ Even
Paul Gray, on the May 5, 1995 "Nightline," admitted, "One thing about fire
is, it's dynamic, it's kinetic, it moves, it changes, it grows."
The first fire could have spread down into the nearby chapel, along the
cat walk on top of the chapel, through the old arms room and down into
the gymnasium, effectively destroying the whole building.
Tank Through Front Door May Have Started Fires
Television news footage shows the tank that smashed through the front door
at noon plowing in and out of the building for almost two minutes, until
approximately 12:02. The Justice report does not even mention this
entry in its section on the final tank attacks.20/ Because this tank
went in so far, shook the building so, and did so much structural damage,
it could have started separate interior fires in the kitchen and dining
room, in the chapel or on the second floor front. Because each area
would have a different "fire load" of flammable materials, fires started
within this two minute period might show up several minutes apart.
Graeme Craddock and Clive Doyle, both of whom were in the chapel when the
tank entered the front door, have described how Davidians, concerned that
tanks would knock over the gallon fuel containers near the front door,
began moving them. Some fuel was spilled during this process.
Craddock left the room briefly and when he returned he saw the cans afire.
He then escaped the building.21/
It is possible that the tank through the front door so rattled the kitchen
and dining room area that it knocked over a lantern lighting that dark
interior area and ignited the fuel containers stored there. A smoldering
fire could suddenly have "flashed-over" and engulfed the kitchen and concrete
room area. James Quintiere did in fact describe the dining room fire
as a "flash-over" fire.22/
Evidence Tank Started Gymnasium Fire
It is probable that a fireball from the second floor fire zapped through
the cat walk, through Koresh's old second floor quarters, and down into
the gymnasium. CNN and other video footage early in the fire shows
little smoke. Then suddenly, within seconds, huge amounts of black
smoke pour from the gymnasium as it explodes into fire. However,
the actions of the tanks remain suspect.
Tanks repeatedly smashed into the gymnasium starting at around 11:20 a.m.
FBI overhead photographs show the progressive destruction of the gymnasium
in the half hour before the fires began. The 11:59:16 a.m. infrared
photograph shows a tank in the midst of the gymnasium, something clearly
seen in FBI overhead photographs.
The government, television networks and other news media have withheld
from the public the fact that the gymnasium collapsed. CBS-TV has never
shown to the public its before and after footage of the collapsed gymnasium.23/
Even when this information was revealed during the trial, few newspapers
reported it. And when the infrared video was finally shown to the
public on "Nightline," neither fire investigator Paul Gray nor commentator
Ted Koppel mentioned this fact obvious in the video.
At trial defense attorneys showed FBI infrared video in which major flashes
of light, indicating heat, occur at 12:08:17 and 12:08:22 p.m. in the window
at the end of the dog run at the back of the gymnasium. Smoke follows
shortly after. While the Justice Department report's 12:08:48 p.m.
photograph does not show these flashes, at trial attorneys insisted the
small viewer box on the film, which automatically goes to a new source
of heat, indicated fire there. Attorney Mike DeGeurin asserted the
collapse of the gymnasium caused the flash and fire there.24/ Because
the roofing had collapsed, and because a tank was inside or near the area
throughout this period, it is unlikely a Davidian could have started the
fire in the dog run. Defense attorneys grilled fire investigator
James Quintiere about whether a fire started in the gymnasium could have
joined with the chapel fire. However, Quintiere stubbornly denied
that possibility, as well as the possiblity that anything but purposely
poured flammable fluid could have spread the fire.25/
FBI agent Mike Toulouse, who was north of the gymnasium, testified at trial
that he first saw smoke near the four story tower and then saw "naked flames"
in the gymnasium "dog run."26/ Defense attorneys entered the log
of FBI agent "Height" who noted that at "12:10" the gymnasium collapsed
and at "12:12" the first fire was seen. (Height's watch evidently
was not synchronized with the infrared camera timer.)
Paul Gray concealed the existence of this flash, as well as the logs and
other information, from other investigators. Not surprisingly, the
edited infrared video that chief fire investigator Paul Gray presented
on "Nightline" did not show the part of the infrared film where the flash
in the dog run occurs. Prosecutors did not call as a witness FBI
agent Garry Harris, who drove the tank, so he could not testify about what
happened after the collapse. Nor did prosecutors call agent Height.27/
This deliberate coverup may be the best evidence that the tank started
the gymnasium fire!
Stonewalling as usual, Justice Department spokesperson Carl Stern dismissed
the survivors' allegations tanks started the fire. "That stuff is
preposterous," he told reporters. And, "You can't knock over a lantern
in three parts of a building at once."28/
THEORIES FBI INTENTIONALLY STARTED FIRES
Given that Mount Carmel burned so quickly and thoroughly, many suspect
deliberate arson by the government. At trial Mike DeGeurin repeatedly
questioned an FBI agent about whether Louis Alaniz, the Davidian sympathizer
who sneaked into Mount Carmel and left the day before the fire, was a government
agent who had been told to leave because the government knew there was
going to be a fire. And Joe Turner wondered if the government brought
infrared cameras because it expected a fire.29/
The most infamous accusation that FBI agents started the fire is contained
in the video "Waco, the Big Lie," which shows what looks like flame coming
out of the barrel of a tank. However, "Waco, the Big Lie Continues"
contains a full shot of the tank pulling several yards back from the building.
Light that at first looks like flame pouring out the front of the tank's
barrel quickly positions itself as a bright blob sitting on the side of
the tank; as the tank pulls further back the bright blob dissolves into
what obviously is building debris stuck in the plow of the tank.
Theory the FBI Systematically Created a Fire
Trap
Some believe that Hostage Rescue Team commander Richard Rogers who created
the plan, trained the field agents, and commanded his troops on April 19th
had a systematic plan to render Mount Carmel a lethal and inescapable fire
trap. They believe the fire at Mount Carmel was a carefully planned
accident.
Many find it incredible that the FBI would order tanks to smash away at
a building filled with flammable fuel and lighted lanterns. Some
wonder if knocking large holes in the building and collapsing the gymnasium
was not a conscious attempt to maximize the "flue effect." Others
wonder if the injection of flammable CS gas and methylene chloride solvent--both
of which produce toxic gases when burned--was part of a plan to accelerate
the fire, and even disable Davidians so they could not escape.
In "The Waco Incident" investigator Gordon Novel charges that the FBI "didn't
need to have separate fires started. It just raced around the building.
. .One can only deduce that their intentions were murderous."
Tanks drove 36 Davidians into the concrete room, where they died, and most
of the rest to the second floor. Many suspect tanks purposely destroyed
all three staircases, preventing easy exit from the second floor.
There is no doubt that Mount Carmel was systematically turned into a fire
trap. The only question is, was it done through criminal negligence
or with intention to commit mass murder?
Theory FBI Pyrotechnic Devices Started Fires
Many believe the FBI used pyrotechnic devices to start or feed one or more
fires inside Mount Carmel. After the fire the FBI and Justice Department
repeatedly denied their ferret liquid tear gas rounds were "pyrotechnic,"
i.e., that they burn and give off sparks on impact. And the Justice
report makes a point of noting that "the last ferret round had been delivered
at approximately 11:40 a.m."30/
However, both Caddell and Conwell's 1994 and Ramsey Clark's 1995 civil
lawsuits allege that the FBI shot flash-bangs into the building on April
19th. Even fire investigator Rick Sherrow, who worked for BATF for
six years, believes the FBI shot pyrotechnic devices into the building.
At trial Texas Rangers mentioned finding a "NICO" brand flash-bang after
the fire, in the gymnasium area.31/
"The Waco Incident" video compares the small amount of dust non-pyrotechnic
grenades give off to the fire and smoke emitted by pyrotechnic devices.
It shows that just such smoke rises from the underground tornado shelter
after it is gassed the morning of April 19th. Agents used the same
grenade launchers to fire the tear gas rounds as they did to fire the pyrotechnic
flash-bangs.32/ Ambiguous trial testimony by agents Toulouse and
Rowan leaves open the possibility that flash-bangs were used at some point
on April 19th to keep Davidians from leaving Mount Carmel.33/
A careless or homicidal agent easily could have substituted a flash-bang
or even a concussion grenade for a ferret round and shot it into the building,
starting a fire.
Some believe that the 12:08:17 p.m. flash in the window of the dog run
indeed was caused by FBI agents shooting a flash-bang from a tank.
The 12:08:11 and 12:08:48 p.m. infrared photographs in the Justice report
show a tank north of the gymnasium, pointing toward the dog run.34/
Theory the FBI Purposely Injected Flammable
Solvents
Some suspect that FBI agents mixed the CS gas particulate with a flammable
solvent such as benzene, ethanol or even jet fuel. At trial tank
driver R. J. Craig testified that he got the pre-packaged liquid tear gas
canisters that he attached to his tank from FBI agent Monte Jett who dispensed
them from the back of a blue rental van.35/ Ramsey Clark's lawsuit
alleges that the FBI used ethanol as a solvent, based on the presence of
high levels of ethanol in the bodies of a number of deceased Davidians.36/
The government has not released the exact number of gallons of CS gas and
solvent dispensed. Because this fire resembled many unexplained and
devastating arson fires created for insurance purposes some theorize a
"High Temperature Accelerant" like jet fuel might have been used.37/
FBI ALLEGATIONS DAVIDIANS STARTED FIRES
During the FBI's April 19th afternoon press conference, SAC Bob Ricks, who earlier in the day had assured reporters the FBI was confidant there would be no mass suicide, said that on seeing the fire his reaction was, "Oh, my God, they're killing themselves!"--as if only a Davidian mass suicide could explain the fire. What follows is evidence the government presents that the Branch Davidians started the fire, plus comments on that evidence. Discussion of the supposedly independent Fire Report follows in the next chapter.
Testimony of FBI Agent
In the April 19th afternoon press conference, SAC Bob Ricks asserted, "Someone
appeared on the second floor of the compound wearing a gas mask and made
a throwing motion. Flames erupted, and the person signaled to agents
he did not want to be rescued."38/ On April 20th SAC Jeff Jamar alleged,
"At least 3 people observed a [cult member] spreading something. . .with
a cupped hand and then there was a flash of fire."39/ However, trial
testimony proved Jamar and Ricks lied.
The Justice report states only that "at 12:10 p.m. another HRT agent, who
was 300 yards away from the compound" reported seeing a man in the front
door area near the piano making suspicious motions, "immediately after
that [he] noticed that a fire started in that position." The agent
then reported what he had seen over the radio.40/
At trial this agent, John Morrison, said he watched through binoculars
from across street as the man, who was near the pushed in front doors,
made "a motion like he was washing his hands. Then I see a fire come
up right from where his hands are. Then the fire gets bigger."
He couldn't identify the man.41/
Defense attorneys first showed photographs proving that Morrison's claim
that the front doors were still in the building when the fire was lit was
false. The tank already had pulled them away from the building.
Morrison then admitted photographs showed that area free of fire even after
most of the building was aflame. An attorney asked Morrison if the
individual he saw could have been trying to extinguish a fire. Morrison
confessed, "I don't know what he was doing."42/
Alleged and Actual Statements of Fire Survivors
During the April 19th press conference Bob Ricks lied when he claimed that
three Davidians had confessed to spreading lantern fuel throughout Mount
Carmel. During an April 22, 1993 CBS-TV "Good Morning America," Bob
Ricks lied when he claimed that survivors told the FBI "that the people
inside were directed to light the fire; we have direct statements to that
effect."
According to the Justice report, FBI agents interviewed surviving Davidians
as they escaped the burning building. "During those interviews three
of the survivors made statements about the cause of the fire. Renos
Avraam told the agents that he had heard someone inside the compound say,
`The fire has been lit, the fire has been lit.'"43/ However, on April
20th Renos Avraam called to the press as he was led into court, "The fire
was not started by us. There were no plans for mass suicide."44/
At trial FBI Agent David Johnson testified that Renos Avraam heard voices
from downstairs saying, "The fire's been lit. The fire's been lit."
Johnson said it was not his job to interrogate Avraam and that he had not
written down the statement until some time later. Avraam's attorney
objected that because it was a group trial, Avraam could not testify to
deny that he made a statement which might implicate other defendants.45/
Similarly, the Justice report alleges that Clive Doyle told the Texas Rangers
that the "fire was started inside the compound with coleman fuel.
Doyle said the fuel had been distributed throughout the compound in specific,
designated locations."46/ However, during the trial prosecutors presented
no evidence Doyle made any such incriminating statement. Doyle himself
asserts that the only thing Davidians did with fuel that day was to move
containers so they would not be crushed by tanks.47/
The report alleges: "Craddock also said that he had heard someone say,
`Light the fire,' and that he had also heard someone else say, `Don't light
the fire.'" However, he told Texas Rangers, "if there was a suicide
pact, he knew nothing about it. He said that he knew nothing about
a plan to burn the building until he heard someone pass the word to start
the fire."48/
Craddock, who was committed to telling the truth about what he heard and
saw, told the grand jury: "I saw where the fire started, but I did not
see how the fires started or who lit them. . .I did hear some confusing
calls that were made in regards to lighting a fire. (From) within
the compound. Someone said the building was on fire. It sounded
like to me someone said, 'Light the fire.' There was a call back,
'What fire, where?' And the next call I think I heard was, 'Don't
light the fire.'" Returning to the chapel, Craddock saw the fire
and fled the room.49/ Craddock's disturbing statements probably are
a misunderstanding of more general cries that a fire had started.
During her trial testimony, Marjorie Thomas said she knew of no discussions
of burning Mount Carmel.50/
Discussions of Fiery Self-Defense
As we have seen, there is evidence that on April 18th Wayne Martin discussed
lighting tanks on fire if they came through the walls of the building.
At trial prosecutors played an April 19th conversation where Davidians
evidently refer to the tanks, saying either, "So we only light 'em as they
come in," or "So we only light 'em as soon as they tell me it's the last
chance, right?" (The audio expert had conflicting interpretations.)51/
Attorney Jack Zimmermann criticized the FBI for not taking evidence of
such a defense plan seriously in an April 20, 1993 CNN interview: "The
FBI knew that David Koresh viewed those tanks out there, for example, as
chariots of fire. They know about the prophecies." (Nahum 2:13
states: "See, I am against you says the Lord of hosts, and I will burn
your chariots in the smoke.") Zimmermann emphasized, however, "We
don't know what happened inside."
Some theologians and others also have speculated that Davidians lit the
fires to replicate the mass suicide of Jews under siege of Masada by Romans
in 66 A.D. or to create a wall of fire to drive off the infidels.
However, since none of the fires started near the first floor areas attacked
by tanks, this theory remains dubious.
Indistinct Surveillance Audio
At trial prosecutors presented a small and very prejudicial sampling of
the six hours of surveillance audio tape recorded by the surveillance device
approximately 10 feet inside Mount Carmel. Prosecutors called only
two relevant witnesses, FBI transcriber Matthew Gravel, who took notes
from the surveillance audio on April 19th, and outside audio expert Paul
Ginsburg.
A partial transcript taken from news reports of conversations recorded
by surveillance devices follows.52/ The trial transcript did not
include the full transcript of the tape. (Note: "DK"
is David Koresh; "SS" is Steve Schneider; "UM" is Unknown Male; "Pablo"
is Pablo Cohen.) Davidian prosecution witness Kathryn Schroeder helped
identify voices on tapes.53/
(Note: All times are Central Time.)
6 a.m.
UM:
Pablo, have you poured it yet?
UM:
Huh?
UM:
Have you poured it yet?
UM:
In the hallway.
UM:
Things are poured, right?
6:10 a.m.
UM:
Don't pour it all out, we might need some later.
UM:
Throw the tear gas back out.
FBI:
(Over loudspeaker) We have received reports that although we have not initiated
fire toward you, there has been fire initiated toward the. . .
UM:
No Way.
6:12 a.m.
UM:
You got to get the fuel ready.
UM:
I already poured it. It's already poured.
UM:
They're gonna kill us.
UM:
They don't want to kill us.
7:23 a.m.
UM:
The fuel has to go all around to get started.
UM:
Well, there are two cans here. If that's poured soon. . .
UM:
Is there a way to spread fuel in there?
UM:
I don't know. I know that one (unintelligible).
UM:
Unintelligible.
UM:
So we only light 'em as they come in (unintelligible) right? Not
if they (unintelligible.)" (Earlier interpretation was: So we only
light 'em as soon as they tell me it's the last chance, right?)
UM:
Well, that's the fuel. We should have got more hay in here.
9:08 a.m.
UM:
Hey, man, if anything happens, we go to heavier things, it doesn't matter
man.
9:16 a.m.
DK:
They got two cans of coleman fuel down there? Huh?
SS:
Empty.
DK:
All of it?
SS:
Nothing left.
DK:
Out of both cans?
SS:
I got some mineral oil here.
UM:
(Unintelligible)
DK:
Hey! Come back here! Hold on here! You're not supposed to steal those masks,
by the way!
UM:
Hey!
UM:
What?
UM:
You shouldn't go stealing that.
DK:
OK, I'll give you one. Want it?
10:00 a.m.
(11:00 a.m. Eastern Time) Janet Reno leaves FBI Operations Center.
11:40 a.m.
UM:
I want a fire around the back. (or "There's a fire round the back."
Time unknown
UM:
Let's keep that fire going.
11:56 a.m.
Tank destroys surveillance equipment.
12:07:52 p.m.
First fire seen on second floor.
When these tapes were played in court, few people heard what audio expert
Paul Ginsburg claimed to hear. Reporter Diana Fuentes wrote that
the tapes "were filled with noise, and voices only occasionally were discernible.
. .The words were faint; some courtroom observers said they heard it, some
didn't."54/ Court observers Ken Fawcett, Jack DeVault and James Pate
assert they could not hear most of what the audio expert stated he heard.
Voices often were inaudible and words and phrases open to a number of interpretations.
Jury forewoman Sarah Bain said the jury did not find the tapes or transcripts
very credible.55/
On the stand Paul Ginsburg admitted he had to play the poor quality, second
generation tape over and over until the conversations began to make some
sense. Prosecutors provided his first draft to defense attorneys.
Only on February 13, 1994 did Ginsburg get together with FBI agent Matthew
Gravel to make up a new transcript with the original, clearer copies of
the audio tapes. These, of course, were different than what was originally
given to the attorneys. The judge thwarted attorneys attempts to
let the jury see the transcripts made by FBI transcribers on April 19th.56/
Prosecutors never explained why they failed to enter into evidence one
conversation they made so much of in their opening arguments. In
it one Davidian asks, "What's the plan?" A second laughs and answers:
"Haven't you always wanted to be a charcoal briquette?"57/
Prejudicial Transcripts of Surveillance Audio
Defense lawyers challenged the accuracy of transcripts of the tapes.
They pointed to several inconsistencies between the jury's copy of the
transcript and earlier versions given to the defense. As we have
seen, the 7:23 a.m. line described above as, "So we only light 'em as they
come in," had been transcribed earlier as, "So we only light 'em as soon
as they tell me it's the last chance, right?"58/ Of course, neither
interpretation may reflect what was actually said--nor do such speculative
statements prove such action was taken.
Defense attorneys were convinced prosecutors had demanded audio expert
Ginsburg change the line to take out the inference of self-defense in the
original. Under cross-examination Ginsburg stated he did not know
what the government was "looking for" in the tapes and denied that after
meeting with prosecutor Ray Jahn he changed the statement into one more
incriminating to the Davidians.59/
Ginsburg did admit that he had been paid $20,000 for 160 hours of transcripts
and that in the previous year the government had paid him $120,000 for
such transcriptions. Defense attorneys implied he would be eager
to please his FBI employer.60/
On August 3, 1994 the ABC-TV television program "Turning Point" played
the only segments of the April 19th recordings then released to the public.
The line which the government claims is, "I want a fire around the back,"
sounds to me like an individual shouting, "There's a fire round the back!"
Yet at trial attorneys claimed the same person was shouting, "I want no
firing around the back."61/
Prosecutors interpreted some phrases which were clearly audible but ambiguous
in the most negative light. As heard on "Turning Point," the phrases
"Is there a way to spread fuel in there?" and "Well, that's the fuel.
We should have got more hay in here," appear to be accurate. However,
since 85 Davidians were dependent upon lanterns using liquid fuel, it is
not surprising a surveillance device might have picked up discussions of
using or pouring fuel.
Davidians also explain that "spreading" fuel might refer to their attempts
to move fuel tanks away from rampaging tanks.62/ The phrase "more
hay" could have been a reference to pushing hay bales against the windows
to stop gas grenades from entering through them.
Prosecutors also left out of the tape presented to the jury a number of
"exculpatory" conversations which could have indicated Davidians' innocence
of lighting any fire. These included discussions of negotiations
and surrender and clear and repeated claims Davidians had not been firing
on tanks. For example, Ginsburg transcribes one conversation as,
"I don't know why they say that cause (unintelligible)." A defense
attorney said that what Ginsburg considered unintelligible was clearly
a Davidian saying, "cause we haven't been firing."63/
All in all, while the tapes do reveal some questionable conversations,
they hardly prove that any Davidian started any fire.
Suspicions FBI Tampered with Surveillance Audio
Many believe that the FBI actually tampered with and/or destroyed some
of this surveillance audio tape. With modern audio technology, FBI
audio experts easily could have spliced together innocuous conversations
to create incriminating sounding ones.
Also, the FBI claims the surveillance devices failed eleven minutes before
the fires started, leaving no definitive audio evidence of how the fires
really started. (For example, yells of "A tank knocked over a lantern!
A fire's been lit!" or even "A flash-bang started a fire!") At trial
FBI agent Matthew Gravel, who on April 19th was taking notes from the tapes
even as he watched the action on television, testified there was an "abrupt
cessation" of transmission at 11:56 a.m. when the tank entered the front
door.64/
FBI CONTINUED ATTACK DESPITE KNOWN DANGERS
It seems evident that FBI commanders Jeff Jamar and Dick Rogers withheld
from Attorney General Janet Reno and other officials the possiblity that
Davidians discussed a fiery defense against tanks on April 18th.
It is possible that on April 19th FBI transcribers told FBI commander Jamar
and spokesperson Ricks that they heard what they considered to be suspicious
conversations between Davidians. It also is possible FBI and Justice
officials in the FBI Operations Center in Washington could hear via a live
audio feed such suspicious conversations. Even if these conversations
were innocent remarks or speculative defense plans, they should have been
enough to prompt anyone concerned with human life to call off the attack.
At trial FBI transcriber Matthew Gravel stated that during the April 19th
attack he was down the hall from FBI siege commander Jeff Jamar.
(A Texas Ranger testified Bob Ricks was also at that command center.)
However, when defense attorneys asked whether Gravel had talked to Jamar
about what he heard on the surveillance tapes, he answered, "I would say
I probably did, but nothing sticks in my mind," and, "I don't recall the
exact nature of the conversation." He also admitted that in an emergency,
he could have passed a note to Jamar.65/ It is possible that
the other two FBI transcribers did in fact have very explicit conversations
with Jamar about what they heard on the tapes. Prosecutors did not
call either to the stand.
It is suspicious that his April 19th during the FBI afternoon press conference,
Bob Ricks asserted that Graeme Craddock "said that he heard discussions
of using lantern fuel to spread it throughout the compound." However,
if Craddock only referred to "moving" fuel in his statement to the FBI,
Ricks' use of the word "spread" suggests he heard, or heard about, conversations
caught by surveillance devices as they occurred.
When a reporter asked if FBI "intelligence" told agents that Koresh's response
to the tank attacks was to set the fire, Ricks refused to answer, just
as both SAC Jeff Jamar and FBI Director William Sessions refused to do
over the next two days.66/ One reporter commented that after Ricks
and Jamar's initial remarks, "federal officials have not explained how
they came to believe that Koresh issued the order for a mass immolation."67/
However, by the time prosecutors played these surveillance tapes at trial,
ten months after the fatal fire, few reporters bothered to question what
the FBI heard from inside Mount Carmel in the days, hours and minutes before
the fire. Nor did the press repeat defense attorney Joe Turner's
question, "Why didn't they bring you the tapes of the bug on April 18th,
the night before? Do you think it's just a coincidence that they
had a FLIR tape up there the morning of April the 19th, that they had a
heat sensitive camera up in the air that morning, an infrared camera that
morning?"68/
It would seem that the FBI, and perhaps Justice Department officials, had
a pre-planned explanation for any catastrophe: mass suicide. As seen
on CNN coverage, little more than an hour into the fire a CNN reporter
told viewers that the "White House" had stated that "Justice people" had
told them the Branch Davidians had started the fire. As we know,
such a statement would have come from Webster Hubbell reporting to Clinton
Chief of Staff Thomas McLarty (or, despite White House denials, to Clinton
himself). Was Hubbell's evidence Davidian conversations which he
himself had heard from the FBI's live audio feed of conversations caught
by surveillance devices? Or did Hubbell merely accept FBI SACs Jamar
or Ricks' lies that more than one agents alleged seeing Davidians start
fires and that Davidians had confessed to doing so?
SMOKE, FIRE, SNIPERS AND TANKS TRAPPED DAVIDIANS
We have seen how the tanks destroyed staircases, collapsed walls and ceilings, and blocked exits with debris. Once the fire started Davidians were further trapped not only by smoke, gaseous fumes and fire, but by their fear of snipers and of tanks standing outside the building--tanks which continued to ram the building as it burned. The bodies of five Davidians were found in the first floor stage and gymnasium area. Thirty-six were found inside, and seven were found on top of, the concrete room. While the government claimed the remaining 28 died on the first floor, it is more likely most died on the second floor.
Smoke, Fumes and Fire
According to a reporter who spoke with outside fire experts who viewed
video tape of the fire, Davidians "may have had less than five minutes
to escape after the fire began. . .the fire produces an enormous amount
of toxic gases that cause confusion."69/ One reporter wrote survivors "said
the smoke was so black, that one of them said within seconds he couldn't
see where he was. . .The building erupted." Another article notes,
"escape attempts were hampered because gas masks clouded up in the smoke
and heat."70/
Marjorie Thomas testified at trial she was on the second floor when, "all
of a sudden, we all felt a warm glow. The whole, entire building
felt warm all at once, and after the warmth, then thick, black smoke and
the place became dark. I couldn't see anything." She could
hear people yelling and screaming, lost a friend who was just a few feet
away, and was severely burned over half her body before as she fought her
way to a window and jumped.71/
According to Renos Avraam's attorney, Avraam, who escaped from the second
floor, stated that "others in the hallway didn't have time to escape.
The fire went too fast. It was total blackness and confusion.
In seconds, everybody was disoriented."72/ David Thibodeau saw a
fireball shoot down the hallway towards the four story tower.73/
And Clive Doyle and Jaime Castillo, who were in the stage area back of
the chapel, have described how the room suddenly exploded into fire.
Those in that area found themselves on fire. Doyle was severely burned
before he managed to jump through a hole the tank had knocked in the wall.74/
As noted, manufacturers warn that burning CS gas can emit lethal hydrogen
cyanide fumes, and fire investigator Rick Sherrow claims methylene chloride
emits toxic phosgene gas. Attorney Ramsey Clark's investigator Gordon
Novel, working on the civil lawsuits, obtained 48 Branch Davidian death
certificates indicating possibly lethal blood levels of cyanide, a by-product
of burning CS gas. In June of 1994 Novel and other civil suit investigators
were permitted to enter Mount Carmel to retrieve soil samples to test for
just such cyanide. The results were not available as of publication.75/
Fear of FBI Snipers
The FBI had at least three sniper nests: north of Mount Carmel in the barn,
in a dug-out sniper nest, and south of Mount Carmel in the undercover house.76/
Davidians were fearful of FBI sniper fire. In "The Waco Incident,"
Clive Doyle describes the reaction of several people in the chapel near
a hole in the building when the fire began. "We were just standing
there looking out the hole. People were saying, `What are we going
to do?' There was concern there were sniper positions, at least two
of them, at the south side that we knew of. There probably were more.
But there were two that were fairly close. We didn't know if we would
be shot when we came out." When the room suddenly exploded into flames
Doyle managed to jump through a hole to safety, but others did not.
Tanks Rammed Building, Blocked Escape
Perhaps the most shocking news video footage contained in "Waco, the Big
Lie Continues" is of a tank continuing to smash into the building early
in the fire. The tank rams the middle front of the building, which
is not burning. (It does pull fiery material out of the roof, which
leads to the video's dubious claim this is more proof the FBI used "flamethrower
tanks.") If six women were indeed trying to escape down the first
floor hallway as the medical examiner claimed, the tank would have been
smashing that hallway at about that time. A full review of all video
footage of tank activity during the fire might well disclose other instances
of tanks ramming the building early in the fire, even as Davidians may
have been trying to escape.
At least one tank stays near the buried bus and dining room as the room
goes up in smoke. CNN footage shows a tank standing outside the chapel
throughout the fire. Infrared photos in the Justice report show one
tank stationed behind the building, near the swimming pool. Some
Davidians may have been intimidated by tanks or even forced back into the
burning building by them.
Davidian Survivors Barely Escaped
Jaime Castillo, Clive Doyle, Derek Lovelock, David Thibodeau and Graeme
Craddock were all in the chapel area at the beginning of the fire.
All but Craddock escaped out the east side near the stage as fire raged
around them. Craddock hopped through a west window of the chapel
and made his way to the concrete building next to the water tower and hid
there until his arrest several hours later.77/
Renos Avraam made it through thick black smoke to a second floor window
and slid down the front roof where he remained for several minutes.
He waved off a tank that offered to rescue him, and then, as the flames
grew nearer, finally jumped off the roof and walked away from the building--a
scene shown over and over again in news stories about the tragedy.
(Both "Waco, the Big Lie" videos claim the man on the roof was a government
agent. However, study of the full video shows that only one individual
jumps from the roof. Avraam asserts it was himself. He even
insisted during his allocution at sentencing that he had told Linda Thompson
this but she ignored his assertion.78/)
Marjorie Thomas made her way out the front of the building. CNN news
footage shows an agent jump out of his tank and spray the burning Thomas
with a fire extinguisher. Misty Ferguson, hands and arms ablaze,
also managed to escape from the west front. Ruth Riddle remained
inside the far west corner room on the second floor until it was surrounded
by fire. News video shows her jumping to the ground through a hole
a tank had punched in the room's wall. ("Waco, the Big Lie Continues"
inaccurately claims she too is an escaping government agent.) FBI
agents claim they saved her as she ran back into the burning building but
she denies she intended suicide. "I knew the building was on fire.
I wouldn't want to burn up. That's why I jumped!" At trial,
Riddle's attorney revealed that she ran back into the building because
she was frightened of the federal agents pursuing her.79/
FIRE DROVE SOME TO SUICIDE
In late September, 1994 McLennan County Justice of the Peace David Pareya
announced that 28 Davidians had bullet wounds.80/ Autopsy results
below indicate that 18 of those proved fatal. The day after the fire,
FBI siege commander Jeff Jamar repeatedly speculated that because gunshots
were heard during the fire, those trying to escape might have been shot
by other Davidians; he considered this to be the "logical" explanation
for the fact so few escaped.81/ However, given the fact that most
exit routes were blocked by debris, collapsed staircases, and smashed hallways,
and Davidians were lost and confused in the black smoke and toxic fumes,
many of those trapped doubtless chose suicide over asphyxiation or burning
to death.
Davidian survivors deny there was a suicide pact. David Thibodeau
said, "No, there was not a suicide pact. . .I know that if I were trapped
in a fire and there was a fire next to me, and I was. . .it was very probable
that I was going to burn, that I may, I may just taken the easy way out."
When the interviewer asked why people didn't try to get out, Thibodeau
answered, "I believe some people did try to get out or else I wouldn't
be sitting here."82/
Fire survivor Ruth Riddle said, "Given the fact that they may have been
trapped, they may have opted for that rather than burning to death, that's
a terrible way to die."83/ Jaime Castillo told a reporter, "If I
was in that situation, where I couldn't get out and the fire was coming
my way, I'd probably take myself out."84/ Derek Lovelock said Koresh
"didn't want to commit suicide and he didn't want to be killed. . .We knew
the end was coming, but we honestly thought it would all pass peacefully,
David included."85/
Pathologist Dr. Rodney Crowe told "The Maury Povich Show" audience, "I
think they did what you would have done, what I would have done and I've
put myself in that position. If I was on fire, if my child was on
fire, if the heat was so unbearable, I'd shoot my child. I would
hope I'd have the strength to shoot myself. As we were examining
these people we hoped that we would find gunshot wounds because we knew
that they went out quickly that way rather than suffer the horrible death
that we knew some of them did." A few Davidians, hearing their friends
and families dying around them, may have chosen death rather than escape.
SPECULATION FBI AGENTS SHOT DAVIDIANS
At the start of the Davidian trial, Darren Borst, son of Mary Jean Borst who died from gunshot wounds in the back, told the press that an "FBI hit team" killed his mother and other Davidians found with gunshot wounds.86/ What follows is evidence that prompts Borst and others to make the damning allegation that FBI agents shot Davidians escaping the building and/or entered Mount Carmel to shoot some of those trapped inside.
FBI Rules of Engagement Permitted Shooting
Davidians
On April 15, 1993 the Dallas Morning News reported that FBI officials had
considered having snipers assassinate David Koresh, who was sometimes seen
near windows. Officials decided that this would raise "serious legal
questions."87/
While the Justice Department claims FBI agents never fired a shot, agent
Tom Rowan revealed he fired gas grenades directly at a man who he claimed
had fired at him. Agents could have shot tear gas grenades at escaping
Davidians to drive them back into the burning building and still claim
they had never fired a shot!
Hostile FBI snipers or agents in tanks out of television camera range,
could have shot one or more Davidians fleeing the back of the burning building--especially
if they thought individuals were armed. If any agents shot Davidians,
the law enforcement "code of silence" probably would prevent other agents
from "snitching" on them.
Davidians and Agents Outside the Building
While Mount Carmel was still burning, CNN and other news outlets reported
that as many as 20 Davidians were seen fleeing out the back of Mount Carmel.
Such claims ceased as soon as the FBI announced there were only nine survivors.
Based on the missing four and half minutes of infrared video tape, and
the fact that tanks seem to be pushing dark oblong objects into the back
of the gymnasium soon after, Michael McNulty believes video tape caught
FBI snipers shooting several Davidians trying to escape the building before
the fire, forcing the FBI to speed up demolition. He demands the
FBI account for all ammunition, spent and intact, issued to FBI snipers
on April 19th.88/
Also, speculation continues to center on agents seen outside Mount Carmel
before and during the fire, such as the agents seen gassing the tornado
shelter in the morning, the alleged agent seen walking in front of the
building as the tank finishes smashing in the front doors, and agents alleged
to be wearing Scott breathing apparatus who were outside their tanks capturing
Davidians during the fire.
"Systematic" Gunfire Heard During the Fire
In the FBI SWAT team video contained in "Waco, the Big Lie Continues,"
sounds of systematic gunfire are heard at approximately 12:15 p.m. while
the most of the building is still standing. The Justice report mentions
FBI agents heard "systematic gunfire" at around 12:25 p.m. and "a distinct
pattern of gunfire from inside the compound at approximately 12:30 p.m.,
when only a small portion of the structure remained intact."89/ Since
the bodies of Davidians who committed suicide were found in a number of
locations and most bodies had only one wound, it is unlikely that Davidian
suicides could have produced "systematic" gunfire in any "distinct pattern."
However, such gunfire could have been produced by FBI agents shooting in
at Davidians.
Justice Department's Immediate Claim Davidians
Shot
Some find it suspicious that three days before the medical examiner released
any findings that Davidians had died of gunshot wounds, Justice Department
Director of Public Affairs Carl Stern announced to the press that two bodies
bore bullet wounds to the head. On April 21, 1993 Stern claimed one
victim was "virtually blown away" and that the clothing of one man allegedly
shot in the ear was "singed, indicating that he was trying to flee the
fire." (Of course, this might also be evidence FBI snipers shot the
escaping man.)90/
The very next day medical examiner Nizam Peerwani said he had "no evidence"
of the wounds and that autopsies had not been completed. Texas Governor
Ann Richards spokesperson Chuck McDonald expressed dismay about the Justice
Department's hasty conclusions.91/ It was not until April 24th that
Peerwani first confirmed that any bodies bore gunshot wounds--a man and
woman on top of the concrete room.92/ Some wonder how the Justice
Department knew Davidians had gun shot wounds even before the medical examiner
announced the fact.
Questions About Some Autopsy Results
Three bodies the government states were found in the kitchen/serving area
have prompted some suspicion. Phillip Henry's official autopsy revealed
he had two major gunshots, in the chest and head. A 9-millimeter
bullet was found in his body, like those used by law enforcement, but it
had "insufficient detail for comparison of bullet." Mary Ann Borst,
who was found in front of the concrete room, died of gunshot wounds to
the back, something that would not be expected in a suicide or mercy killing.
Jimmy Riddle, who had been shot in the head, also was found in the kitchen/serving
area. He was identified through finger prints, something that one
would assume would be obliterated by fire. (Two women buried under
debris in the concrete room also were identified through fingerprints.)93/
If Riddle had been killed outside and his body bulldozed back into the
fire, it might well have been less damaged than those inside the building
for the duration of the fire.
There have been persistent rumors that FBI snipers entered Mount Carmel
and shot David Koresh and Steve Schneider. These rumors are disproved
by Davidians who say they saw them right before the fire. Because
Koresh was shot in the forehead, "execution style," and Schneider in the
mouth, "suicide style," Dr. Peerwani surmised that Steve Schneider killed
David Koresh and then himself--in the first floor communications room.
FBI agents and news reporters would go on to repeat this "suicide pact"
story--without mentioning that both had carbon monoxide in their systems
and were trapped on the second floor.94/
Other Evidence and Allegations
There have been rumors that fire survivor Derek Lovelock claimed that Davidians
trying to exit the back were shot down. Prosecutors let Lovelock
return to England when he promised he would testify as a prosecution witness;
but the government never requested he return. Some believe prosecutors
feared he would repeat that allegation on the stand.95/
Graeme Craddock told the grand jury that as he exited the chapel window,
"I heard these gunshots being fired, I didn't know what reason. I
knew they were coming from somewhere."96/ His inability to pinpoint
the gunfire creates suspicions that some came from FBI snipers.
Shortly after the fire famed pathologist Cyril H. Wecht conducted an independent
autopsy on the bodies of Koresh and Steve Schneider. Wecht fed the
sniper rumor when he stated that because Koresh's bullet wound was in the
middle of the forehead, he did not "`rule out' the possibility that Koresh
and Schneider were shot by outside snipers."97/ Also, Wecht claimed
Schneider's bullet wound was in the back of the head, indicating "he did
not shoot himself."
Ramsey Clark's civil law suit alleges that not only did the FBI incapacitate
Davidians with CS gas, but FBI agents then entered the building and shot
Davidians. Clark himself told a reporter that agents "walked in there
after the fire had started and shot people, some of whom were alive, on
the ground."98/ However, survivor testimony contradicts this theory.
Considering all the above, it is likely speculation will continue that
agents shot Davidians either inside or outside the building.
AUTOPSY RESULTS
Davidians claim that 76 people, including two unborn children, died during
the fire. The following table shows the results of medical examiner
Nizam Peerwani and staff's autopsies of those who died in the fire as of
mid-1994.99/ Because of other errors in autopsies, all this information
remains suspect.
I have grouped autopsy results according to cause of death and location
of body. Not all numbers originally assigned were eventually connected
to individuals. Because parts of the same body were sometimes given
more than one number, there are more numbers than people who actually died
in this listing. (Because I did not have access to all final autopsy
reports, this listing is incomplete. According to Davidian survivors,
after final autopsies, two Martin and two Martinez children were not specifically
identified before burial.)
January,
1998 Note: Ms. Carol Valentine's "Waco Electronic Museum" makes
the dubious accusation that a number of additional Davidians, especially
mothers and children, were killed before the fire (by persons un-named)
because of differing rates of decomposition and the fact that body parts
are intermingled or missing. (As we know, the video taken inside Mount
Carmel March 8, 9 and 28 showed most of the mothers and children
alive.) The "museum" also claims that the Davidian survivors are
lying about this "fact."
However,
these differing rates of decomposition and destruction are easily explained
by the facts that: some bodies were buried under rubble and barely burned
while others were totally burned; people were cramped together in a small
room among stored boxes of ammunition, black power and other items; as
seen on CNN video which continued filming for an hour and half after the
fire, the inside of the concrete room kept burning with numerous explosions
flashing out the hole in the top--these explosions would have done great
destruction to affected bodies; finally, the bodies inside the room were
exhumed between April 27 and 29, more than a week after he fire, allowing
ample time for additional decomposition of those bodies exposed to air.
Ms. Valentine's baseless and even libelous accusations are an insult to
both the victims and the survivors.
Note that "bunker" is the above ground concrete room and "auditorium" is
probably the gymnasium. Also, many of those listed as having died
in the first floor kitchen/serving area, in the communications room or
in front of the "bunker" may in fact have died trapped on the second floor.
Therefore a question mark has been placed beside these locations.
#29
B.
Elliot
F, 31 1st Fl.
Hallway?
Burns/Smoke
#3
F.
Houtman
M, 61
Auditorium
Burns/Smoke
#6
W.
Martin
M, 42
Auditorium
Burns/Smoke
#4
S.
Sonobe
M, 35
Auditorium
Burns/Smoke
#40 G.
Summers
M, 28 Top
Bunker
Burns
#36
D.
Jones
M, 38 Top
Bunker
Burns
#38
R.
Saipaia
F, 24 Top
Bunker
Burns
#15
A.
Davis
M, 30
Kit/Serving?
Burns
#5
M.
Wendel
M, 37 Comm.
Room? Burns
#8
D.
Koresh
M, 33 Comm.
Room? Gunshot/head
#7
S.
Schneider
M, 48 Comm.
Room? Gunshot
mouth
#31aA. Gyrfas
Summers
F, 17 In
Bunker
Gunshot/chest
#31B Gyrfas
fetus
In
Bunker
Maternal demise
#56
A.
Martinez
F, 11 In
Bunker
Gunshot/head
#47A
N.
Gent
F, 24 In
Bunker
Gunshot/head
#47B
Gent
fetus
In
Bunker
Maternal demise
#66
L.
Sylvia
F, 40 In
Bunker
Gunshot/back, thorax
#53
F, 5-6 In
Bunker
Gunshot/left chest
#67-8
?, 1 In
Bunker
Gunshot/head
#34
F.
Sonobe
F, 34 In
Bunker
Gunshot/head
#35
S.
Doyle
F, 18 In
Bunker
Gunshot/head
#45
M.
Borst
F, 38 Front
bunker?
Gunshot/back
#20
J.
Riddle
M, 32
Kitchen?
Gunshot/forehead
#43
L.
Farris
F, 24
Kit/Serving?
Gunshot/head
#44
J.
Little
M, 28
Kit/Serving?
Gunshot/left chest
#21
P.
Henry
M, 22
Kit/Serving?
Gunshot/chest/head
#22
S.
Henry
M, 26
Kit/Serving?
Gunshot/forehead
#39
N.
Hipsman
F, 36 Top
Bunker
Gunshot/head/chest
#41
N.
Vaega
M, 36 Top
Bunker
Gunshot/head
#37
A.
Bennet
M, 35 Top
Bunker
Smoke/CO
#27
D.
Fagan
F, 60 1st Fl.
Hallway? Smoke/CO
#25
Y.
Fagan
F, 30 1st Fl.
Hallway? Smoke/CO
#24
B.
Monbelly
F, 31 1st Fl.
Hallway? Smoke/CO
#26
F, 15-19 1st Fl.
Hallway?
Smoke/CO
#28
F, 50 1st Fl.
Hallway?
Smoke/CO
#42
P.
Cohen
M, 28 Top
Bunker
Smoke/CO
#23
S.
Benta
F , 31
Kit/Serving?
Smoke/CO
#10
S.
Murray
F, 29
Kit/Serving?
Smoke/CO
#9
C.
Sellors
M, 50
Kit/Serving?
Smoke/CO
#11
S.
Jewell
F, 42
Kit/Serving?
Smoke/CO
#14
F, 30-39
Kit/Serving?
Smoke/Co
#16
F, 22-28
Kit/Serving?
Smoke/CO
#17
F, 22-40
Kit/Serving?
Smoke/CO
#18
F, 17-35
Kit/Serving?
Smoke/CO
#19
T.
Norbrega
F, 48
Kit/Serving?
Smoke/CO
#12
J.
Andrade
F, 19 Front
bunker? Smoke/CO
#71
M. Jones
Thibodeau
F, 28, Front
bunker?
Smoke/CO
#2
L.
Malcolm
M, 26
Stage/chapel
Smoke/CO
#1
R.
Friesen
M, 76
Stage/chapel
Smoke/CO
#51A M.
Schneider
F, 2 In
Bunker
Smoke/CO
#54
J.
Martinez
F, 30 In
Bunker
Smoke/Co
#52
J.
Martinez
M, 8 In
Bunker
Smoke/CO
#30
K.
Andrade
F, 24 In
Bunker
Smoke/CO
#49
M. Wayne
Jr.
M, 20 In
Bunker
Smoke/CO
#32
J.
McBean
M, 27 In
Bunker
Smoke/CO
#64
F, 1 In
Bunker
Smoke/CO
#65
H.
Sylvia
F, 1 In
Bunker
Smoke/CO
#67-1
F, 5-6 In
Bunker
Smoke/CO
#67-4
B.
Koresh
M, 1 In
Bunker
Smoke/CO
#67-5
P.
Gent
F, 1 In
Bunker
Smoke/CO
#69
?, 1 In
Bunker
Smoke/CO
#72
F, 4-5 In
Bunker
Smoke/CO
#73
?, 1 In
Bunker
Smoke/CO
#75
F, 25-35 In
Bunker Smoke/CO
#57
S.
Koresh
F, 6 In
Bunker
Suffocation
#67-2
C.
Koresh
M, 8 In
Bunker
Suffocation
#67-6
R.
Sylvia
F, 13 In
Bunker
Suffocation
#70
C.
Andrade
F, 1 In
Bunker
Suffocation
#51B
J.
Schneider
F, 41 In
Bunker
Suffocation/buried
#67-3
R.
Koresh
F, 24 In
Bunker
Suffocation/buried
#61
R.
Morrison
F, 29 In
Bunker
Suffocation/buried
#55
A.
Martinez
F, 12 In
Bunker
Suffocation/buried
#59
F, 14-19 In
Bunker Trauma/Head
#63
Jones
twin
F, 1 In
Bunker
Trauma/Head
#13
D.
Martin
F, 41 Front
bunker Trauma/Fall
#33
D.
Gent
M, 3 In
Bunker
Stabbed/(or trauma)
#74
F, 7-8 In
Bunker
Unknown
1.
June 16, 1995 trial transcript, p. 136-137
2.
Clive Doyle and Rick Sherrow, private communications, May, 1995.
3.
Newsweek, May 3, 1993, p. 25; Clive Doyle, private communication, May,
1995.
4.
Trial transcript, pgs. 6624, 6376.
5.
Mary Jordan and Sue Anne Pressley, "Examiners Work to Identify Bodies,"
Washington Post, April 23, 1993.
6.
Trial transcript, p. 6370; Clive Doyle, private communication, August,
1994.
7.
David Thibodeau interview, "Current Affair," May 3, 1993.
8.
Justice Department report, p. 231; Fire report, p. 9.
9.
Trial transcript, p. 5897-98.
10.
Ibid. pgs. 5819-22.
11.
Justice Department report, pgs. 330-31.
12. Ibid. p. 294.
13.
Trial transcript, pgs. 5926-28.
14.
Justice Department report, Fire report, p. 5.
15.
Michael Rezendes, "2 versions emerge of disaster at cult compound," Boston
Sunday Globe, April 25, 1993, A12.
16.
Jaime Castillo, private communication, January, 1995.
17.
David Thibodeau, private communication, May, 1995.
18.
Associated Press wire story, April 22, 1993, 08:26 EDT.
19.
Rick Sherrow, private communication, May, 1995.
20.
Justice Department report, p. 294.
21.
Trial transcript, pgs. 6370-73; Clive Doyle, private communication, May,
1995.
22.
Ibid. p. 5907.
23.
James L. Pate, "Government's Waco Whitewash Continues," Soldier of Fortune,
February, 1994, p. 56.
24.
Trial transcript, pgs. 5839-40, 5861, 5884-85.
25.
Trial transcript, pgs. 5940, 5942, 5944, 5946.
26.
Ibid. p. 5019.
27.
Ibid. p. 5862.
28.
Sue Ann Pressley and Mary Jordan, April 23, 1993, A16; Mary Jordan and
Sue Anne Pressley, "40 Bodies Found in Waco Ruins," Washington Post, April
22, 1993, A16.
29.
Ibid. pgs. 6212-13.
30.
Justice Department report, p. 294.
31.
Trial transcript, p. 837; Caddell & Conwell suit, p. 55; Ramsey Clark
lawsuit, p. 43; Gordon Novel, private communication, March, 1995; Rick
Sherrow, private communication, May, 1995.
32.
Trial transcript, pgs. 5322, 5332, 5162.
33.
Ibid. pgs. 5039, 5121, 5189.
34.
Ibid. pgs. 5839-40, 5884-85; April, 1995, Questions list from Citizens
Organization for Public Safety.
35.
Ibid. pgs. 5505-08. 5578.
36.
Ramsey Clark law suit, p. 44.
37.
Erik Larson, "High-Heat Arson Fires Swiftly Raze Buildings But Leave Few
Clues," Wall Street Journal, October 7, 1993, A1.
38.
Justice Department report, p. 304-07.
39.
Louis Sahagun and J. Michael Kennedy, April 21, 1993, A6.
40.
Justice Department report, p. 296.
41.
Reuters wire story, "Davidian started fire, agent testifies," Washington
Times, February 8, 1994; trial transcript, p. 5242.
42.
Trial transcript, p. 5433.
43.
Justice Department report, p. 300.
44.
Sam Howe Verhovek, April 21, 1993, A1.
45.
Trial transcript, pgs. 5483-93.
46.
Justice Department report, p. 300.
47.
Clive Doyle, private communication, August, 1994.
48.
Justice Department report, p. 300-01.
49.
Trial transcript, pgs. 6371-72; Graeme Craddock, private communication,
January, 1995.
50.
Majorie Thomas testimony, November 17018, 1993, p. 189.
51.
"Prosecution Completes Case Against 11 Koresh Followers," New York Times,
February 16, 1994; trial transcript, p. 6305.
52.
"Tape Transcripts from Agents' Bug Indicate Fire Plans," San Antonio Express,
February 15, 1994; Paul McKay, February 15, 1994.
53.
Trial transcript, p. 6243.
54.
Diana R. Fuentes, "Davidian Told Grand Jury of Arming before the Raid,"
February 16, 1994, 4A.
55.
Ken Fawcett, James Pate, Jack DeVault and Sarah Bain, private communication,
June, 1994.
56.
Trial transcript, pgs. 6195, 6293-96, 6327, 6350-64.
57.
Kathy Fair, "Cult members 'executed' prosecutors say," Houston Chronicle,
January 13, 1994, 6A.
58.
Trial transcript, pgs. 6305-06.
59.
Ibid. pgs. 6322-23, 6283.
60.
Ibid. pgs. 6314-15.
61.
Ibid. p. 6311.
62.
Clive Doyle, private communication, August, 1994; Justice Department report,
p. 300-01; trial transcript, pgs. 6212-13.
63.
Trial transcript, pgs. 6292-96, 6304-10, 6326-27.
64.
Ibid. p. 6200.
65.
Ibid. pgs. 6228, 6237.
66.
Ricks at FBI April 19th press conference; Jamar at FBI April 20, 1993 press
conference; Sessions on ABC news special "Waco: The Decision to Die," April
20, 1993.
67.
Michael Rezendes, "2 versions emerge of disaster at cult compound," Boston
Sunday Globe, April 25, 1993, p. 12.
68.
Trial transcript, pgs. 7120-21.
69.
Michael deCourcy Hinds, "For Experts, Fire Tapes Provide Rare Evidence,"
New York Times, April 28, 1993, A16.
70.
Washington Times, April 23, 1993.
71.
Marjorie Thomas testimony, November 17-18, 1995, p. 76.
72.
Michael Rezendes, "2 versions emerge of disaster at cult compound," Boston
Sunday Globe, April 25, 1993, p. 12.
73.
David Thibodeau interview, "Current Affair," May 3, 1993.
74.
"The Waco Incident" video; Jaime Castillo, private communication, January,
1995.
75.
Mount Carmel Survivors "Mount Carmel Alert," June, 1994; Gordon Novel,
private communication, January, 1995.
76.
Trial transcript, pgs. 5278, 5399.
77.
Justice Department report, p. 298-99; private communications with survivors.
78.
Renos Avraam, private communication, June, 1994; June 16, 1994 trial transcript,
p. 134.
79.
NBC-TV "Dateline," June 15, 1993; trial transcript, p. 7121.
80.
"Inquest: 28 Davidians were shot," Washington Times, September 25, 1994.
81.
Sue Anne Pressley and Mary Jordan, "Cultists May Have Been Forced to Stay,"
Washington Post, April 21, 1993, A1.
82.
David Thibodeau interview, "Good Morning America," May 17, 1993.
83.
Ruth Riddle interview, NBC's "Dateline," June 15, 1993.
84.
Sam Howe Verhovek, "Investigators Puzzle Over Last Minutes of Koresh,"
New York Times, May 5, 1993, A18.
85.
Michael Hedges, "Search for corpses starts," Washington Times, April 22,
1993, A1.
86.
"Mark Potok, "Davidian trial's hoopla mirrors strange case," USA Today,
January 11, 1994, A3; "Court TV" newscaster reports January 10 and 11,
1993.
87.
Lee Hancock, "No easy answers, law authorities puzzle over methods to end
Branch Davidians siege," Dallas Morning News, April 15, 1993.
88.
Michael McNulty, private communication, April, 1995.
89.
Justice Department report, pgs. 6, 298.
90.
Mary Jordan and Sue Anne Pressley, April 22, 1993, A1, A16.
91.
Mary Jordan and Sue Anne Pressley, "Examiners Work to Identify Bodies,"
Washington Post, April 23, 1993, A1.
92.
Mary Jordan and Sue Anne Pressley, "`Gunshot Wounds to the Head' Killed
2 Found in Cult Compound," Washington Post, April 25, 1993, A20.
93.
Steven R. Reed, February 27, 1994, 21A; Justice Department report, pgs.
320, 321.
94.
Sam Howe Verhovek, New York Times, February 27, 1994, A26; David Koresh
autopsy, Nizaam Peerwani, M.D., and James O'Brien, M.D.; Steven Schneider
autopsy, Charles M. Harvey, M.D. and Marc A. Krouse, M.D.
95.
Jack DeVault, p. 23.
96.
Trial transcript, p. 6372.
97.
Sue Anne Pressley, "Koresh Wound Not Typical of a Suicide, Doctor Says,"
Washington Post, May 18, 1993, A3.
98.
Evan Moore, "Law suit accuses FBI of shooting cultists, bombing compound,"
Houston Chronicle, February 28, 1995; Ramsey Clark lawsuit, p. 43.
99.
Justice Department report, pgs. 313-28; trial transcript pgs. 5970-85;
Mark England, February 16, 1994; 40 final autopsy reports.